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ranchhand
Another newbie question: what is the average web page size? I know that monitors are rapidly going 16:9 widescreen now, and the 4:3 aspect ratio monitors are slowly going the way of all flesh. I have seen webpages that you must dial down to see all of the initial splashpage; I just want the entire page to appear without any dial down (or worse, right & left dial to see the entire splash page) when the viewer first accesses. What is the good size to specify in Frontpage in pixels?

Thanks, and sorry for the basic questions. Its been a long time since I created a website.
spotmoonpc
Hi there, I always create my sites with 1024 by 768. I've never had any complaints. With LCDs today most peole will be running at this higher resolution.

Hope that helps,
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Dashwood95
I'm with spot. That's still my ideal viewing size.
Robert Wellock
Size doesn't matter, or should I say it is how you use it. Really, I assume you want to know what the typical display sizes are for visitors. Well, it depends upon what market you are targeting whether it is mobile devices or desktop users. At the moment for desktops 1024x768 is the most prevalent Browser Display setting then again not everyone surfs at full screen.

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ranchhand
Well, what I mean is that in Frontpage I can set the display page Height and Length to any number of pixels I want; I can set the screen so large that the viewer must dial left and right to see everything that comes up on the page(or up & down) which is what I don't want. Yes, I usually work in 1024x768 resolution, but what I am concerned with is the proper screen size in pixels. Right now I am working on a project with a size of 500X800 pixels, and at least in Frontpage it appears to size correctly and filles the entire screen with no need for dialing to see everything. I hope I am being clear.
phzzz
Hi,

I never used Frontpage since I code entirely by hand with Editpad, so I'm unfamiliar with the software and its interface. But I need to ask this...

Must
you define height and width values using the software, or can you omit that? If you can omit it, it will be much easier. Don't define those values in the Frontpage software if possible, but instead try and use percentages for tables and/or DIV containers in your code, instead of using fixed values. That way, the page size will conform to any screen resolution and will "stretch" and "shrink" accordingly, as the site visitor resizes whatever browser they are using.

Now... the height "can" be defined in a container as a fixed value in pixels if need be. Vertical scrolling is perfectly acceptable and expected behavior in web pages, especially with pages that contain lots of content. But if you define container width fixed values in pixels, it can cause horizontal scrolling, depending on the value you set and the end-users screen rez, which is not acceptable. Instead, giving the width a percentage value will allow that "stretching" and "shrinking" behavior I just mentioned above, and would be fine/ perfectly acceptable, and will cause no horizontal scrolling whatsoever.

Are you using Frontpage extensions at all at your web server? Let me know. Also, it would be lots easier for me to help you if you have a working page uploaded somewhere that I can see - even temporarily uploaded just for testing purposes. If you can provide a working URL for me, I can examine the source code and make whatever correction/changes are needed using percentage values for the width in your containers, to not have it generate any horrid horizontal scollbar so that it will be perfectly viewable at any screen rez, for any site visitor.


ranchhand
Thanks Phzzz and all! I think you gave me something to investigate. This week-end I will see what the default values are in Frontpage, and if I can declare in %. Yes, I will be using Extensions, that is a very convenient way to upload with two clicks of the mouse. I have some free space with my Comcast subscription, so I will investigate that as a "proofing" place and will send you the link.

I want to thank all for responding. It has been several years since I have created a site, and I am doing this for an old family friend who wants to start a small home-business. She is extremely heavy into herbal medicines and has created an absolutely wonderful splash scent that she sells on the side. Her sales have been steadily climbing via word of mouth, and now she would like a very simple site just to explain her product and what is in it (nothing artificial, not even alcohol as a carrier) so people can dial in. Thanks again, I appreciate the help from all!
KemoSabe
Hi there Ranchhand,

Funny that you asked that and by the way, not necessarily a "newbie" question. Anyone wanting to maximize/optimize the real estate should always take not as to just how much dirt they actually have.

I beleive that it all depends on the type of site that you are developing AND whom you clients are. If you perceive that they might fall into a category that is not into getting new more modern hardware, software, etc. , and are just happen with having a computer up and working, you might summize that less is more. If the oposite is true, then wider screen format might be your choice.

Additionally, should your site carry advertising to help support you cost, these wider formats might be a choice to accomodate to this desirable ad space that produces revenue.


Ironically, i did an search yesterday and found that between sites like Google, Yahoo, MSN, and about 5 otheres in these well traffic'd venues, the average "width' is not just a little over 900 pixels wide. I thought it would be less than that but was happily surprised.

Best,

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